Will the Sooners Run It Down the Buckeyes' Throats? - Baver Answers

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Colin: First off, have you ever seen a worse play call than Tulsa putting it in the air with 30 seconds left in the half, in the worst conditions I've ever seen in the horseshoe. I think a quick kick on 3rd down would have been a better play. How stupid was that decision?

Baver: A Baylor disciple lives and dies by the sword….very stupid call indeed.

Colin: Before that though, both the O and D lines seemed to be getting pushed around by Tulsa. How big of a concern is this heading into face the Sooners this weekend?

Baver: Somewhat concerning. Although, I think part of that amounted to Ohio State simply not wanting to show anything on either side of the ball prior to the trip to Oklahoma. Some of that strategy then had to be thrown out the window when the score was tied 3-3, late 2nd quarter.

Colin: Historically, it doesn't get any bigger than the Buckeyes on the road in Norman. And for a night game no less. How bad does Stoops and company want this one and when was the last non-conference game this big in Oklahoma?

Baver: 15 years ago, Stoops earned the nicknamed “Big Game Bob” because he won the big ones. Now, he still has the nickname, but it’s used sarcastically. As I mentioned a week ago, I think he gets too much criticism, but losing to Ohio State certainly isn’t going to help his reputation.

Last big non-conference game in Norman? Notre Dame visited in 2012. Phil Steele tells me it was the 8th ranked Sooners vs the #5 ranked Fighting Irish. Notre Dame took home the victory in that one.

Colin: What does Ohio State have to do to win this game? 

Baver: Winning the turnover battle goes without saying. I think the Bucks need a true WR to step up and have a big game. Curtis Samuel has to keep making plays. The pass rush has to be better…with Lewis, Hubbard, Holmes and Lil’ Bosa, the ends have to provide more pressure than they have gotten in weeks one and two.

Colin: Is Malik Hooker this good, or lucky, or both?

Baver: Both. I think Malik covers as much ground as any safety that I ever remember playing here, and his ball skills are insane. He had only played a few years of football when OSU offered him a scholarship, but the OSU coaches saw what Hooker had on the basketball court, and that was all they needed to see.

Colin: What can the Sooners do that worries you?

Baver: (1) Perine and Mixon running it down Ohio State’s throat. The Sooners abandoned the run way too early against Houston. (2) Mayfield scrambling and young Buckeye defenders over-pursuing. (3) A defensive backfield taking Ohio State’s X and Y receivers out of the game.

Colin: The Buckeyes are talented, but very young; can we really be disappointed if this game goes in the loss column?

Baver: We probably shouldn’t be. If you analyze the units and look at experienced depth, Ohio State shouldn’t be favored in this game. But, we certainly will be if we don’t come home with a win.

Colin: What games and/or lines will you be watching this weekend? 

Baver: Third Buckeye game in a row that I would say: stay away from if you’re a bettor. But I have to make a pick here. I chalked this up as a loss prior to September, but I am starting to sip the Kool-Aid. Urban is a road warrior and I think the Bucks make enough big plays to get it done Saturday night. So, if you have to pick the game, I’d say take the Bucks and lay the point and a half.

Two more games….Gotta like Texas A&M getting 3 ½ at Auburn.  Should be a close one and I was thinking the spread would be about even. And I like Southern Cal getting 8 ½ at Stanford. aThe Trojans are better than what they showed against Bama and that line is inflated.

 


Browns Enter Season With New Regime; NCP Talk Offseason Moves and Week 1 Preview

Since last season, @northcoastposse has been named a Top Five Twitter follow by the Cleveland Browns.  Certainly quite an achievement. To celebrate, The NCP are hosting a Browns kick off party at Four String Brew Sunday, September 11th. The League Bowlers play at noon and Browns v Eagles on the tube at 1pm. 

The NCP Answer Your Browns Questions

Q:  Let’s hope the NCP performs better in 2016 than previous top picks by the Browns. Speaking of that, Mingo and Gilbert... gone. Why?

K-Dubs, the Soldier: Yeah, the Browns continue to be unconventional in weird ways.  By moving Barkevious Mingo and Justin Gilbert for a fifth- and sixth-round draft pick, respectively, Cleveland pulled off not just one, but two rare training-camp trades.  I think the trades make sense, too, even though both of them were top-10 draft picks in recent years.  Here are two guys that just didn’t fit the system.  Mingo always seemed to be stuck between stations.  He is a pass-rush specialist that has yet to develop into a linebacker that can be on the field for all three downs, and he was not big enough to play defensive end.  He was a great special-teams player, though, and by all reports a good guy.  I wish him the best of luck in New England.

I can’t say the same for Justin Gilbert.  Ever since he arrived in Cleveland, he was a malcontent whose confidence far outpaced his effort.  The Browns secondary is fairly thin, and Gilbert had every chance to win a starting job but failed despite his potential.  He was certainly no fan favorite, and now he wears a Steelers jersey.  No love.  

Q:  It appears that the Browns two best players could be a WR who has been too stoned to play for the past two seasons and another WR who has never made an NFL roster to begin a season after converting from QB. Is this concerning?

K-Dubs, the Soldier:  Hell no!  It is exciting.  Josh Gordon and Terrelle Pryor are two of the most physically gifted players in the league.  These dudes are thoroughbreds.  It is like having Secretariat and American Pharaoh lining up at wideout (imaging for a second that a horse can catch a football).  They have the ability to go the distance at any time.  Just check out Pryor’s 93-yard touchdown run against the Steelers in 2013, it was the longest ever by a quarterback.  It was Tecmo Bowl come to life.  The same can be said for Gordon’s 95-yard catch and run against the Jags in 2014.  Sure, Pryor is not a great passer.  Any Buckeye fan can tell you that.  But he is going to shred defenses as a receiver this year, especially when Gordon comes back from suspension in Week 5. 

Ever since their return to the league, the Browns have rarely had dynamic playmakers, let alone much quality depth at the skill positions.  Now Gordon and Pryor join rookie speedster Corey Coleman and Andrew Hawkins at receiver, while Duke Johnson, Jr. (61 catches, 534 yards, 2 TD) adds another receiving option out of the backfield.  There is no doubt the talent is there (finally).  The question is can the line can generate enough of a running game and protect Robert Griffin III long enough to maximize the impact of that talent. 

Big$:  I’m not concerned that JG and TP are the 2 best players.  My concern is that 1 of the 2 best players is not one of the 7,345 first round picks they have had over the last 5 years.

Q:  Would you rather have Carson Wentz or RG3 starting week one?

K-Dubs, the Soldier: RG3, all day long.  He has proven he can play at the highest levels of college, winning the Heisman Trophy, and, as a rookie, he took the perennial also-ran Redskins to the playoffs.  Despite a wicked ankle injury that cost him half of the 2014 season, he is still a dual-threat quarterback that can buy extra time behind the Browns’ young—and still gelling—offensive line.  By all accounts, RG3 has benefitted from the big-ass slice of humble pie he had to eat when he was demoted to the meatball squad last year in Washington, and he has shown considerable growth in terms of leadership and preparation.  He is going to have some weapons to work with this year, too.  I am expecting a big game from RG3 on Sunday.

On the flip side, there’s Wentz—a quarterback from North Dakota State of the FCS, who the Eagles selected with the second overall pick in this year’s draft.  We have seen what a healthy RG3 can do, but the pro film on Wentz is limited to part of one game.  He suffered a cracked rib in the preseason opener against Tampa Bay’s second team and he has not seen game action since.  At 6’5”, 240 lb., Wentz has the prototypical frame for an NFL QB, but all we know about him is that he put up decent numbers in the Missouri Valley Conference and that he couldn’t last a half in a scrimmage.  Look for Browns defensive coordinator Ray Horton to prey on Wentz’s inexperience by confusing him with different defensive looks and blitz packages.  It is this advantage in QB experience that makes this game one of the Browns’ best chances for a victory this season.

Big$:  NDSU is basically a more dominant version of Alabama in D2. They are superior at every position then their opponents. Wentz’s 2015 back up performed as well as he did, which is more a product of having NFL caliber O-lineman than the quality of either QB. I fully expect ole Carson and his super long delivery to be exposed in the pros.

As for RG3, here is my sizzling take. I truly believe he is a better option that Deshaun Watson moving forward. (I’m holding hope that Mentor H.S.-product Mitch Trubisky down at University of North Carolina finds his way back to the North Shore).

Q:  What is the strength of this Browns team?

Big $: My short (somewhat delusional) response is TP Sr.  My more grounded reply is youth. All of the draft picks made the roster, and several will see significant playing time. I specifically have high hopes for the young guns on defense. I think Emmanuel Ogbah, Carl Nassib and Joe Schobert, all have the capability to be quality NFL contributors within the next few years. I also have my fingers crossed that both rookies Spencer Drango and Shon Coleman can find their way into starting OL spots.

K-Dubs, the Soldier:  I think that the Browns’ greatest strength this year is the deep threats they have in the passing game.  Like I said earlier, Gordon and Pryor can score from anywhere on the field.  They both showed that ability in the preseason, with each hauling in 50-yard touchdown catches against top-notch defensive backs.  I have a feeling that the lightning-quick Coleman will prove he has that same explosiveness. 

Throughout the preseason, the defense has struggled.  Surely, you cannot judge a team on its preseason performance (See the 2008 Detroit Lions: 4-0 in preseason; 0-16 in regular season).  Starters do not play the whole games and schemes tend to be more vanilla, so August stats do not offer much foresight on September performance.  But the Browns did give their first- and second-teamers more extensive action this year than most teams generally do, and the results were not good.  The opposing teams had an average of 11 more minutes in time of possession.  Opponents collectively gained 90 first downs to the Browns 51, and converted nearly 50 percent of their 3rd downs.   I hope that these tendencies do not bleed over into the regular season.  If they do, and the defense cannot get off the field, big-time touchdown threats are great equalizers that should give Cleveland a puncher’s chance in every game this year.  

Q:  What is the weakness?

Big$:  Ironically my answer is the same as my take on the strength. The inexperience of this roster is going to make for some painful moments on Sundays, especially against seasoned divisional foes. The key is to stay positive and focused on the future.

K-Dubs, the Soldier: The defensive front seven.  This is a team that has gone from being among the oldest in the league last year to being the second youngest.  At the start of the season, 19 of the guys on the 53-man roster are comprised of first- and second-year players.  That is 36 percent.  Nowhere is that inexperience more prevalent than among defensive linemen and linebackers.    Rookies Ogbah and Schobert are slated to start at the outside linebacker positions in Coach Jackson’s 3-4 scheme.  These guys have shown potential, particularly Ogbah who may prove to be the steal of the 2016 draft, but the fact that they are rolling with the 1’s may say more about a lack of depth than their ability to step right into starting roles.  Young players are more likely to be uncertain in their alignments, more likely to miss assignments, and more likely to hesitate.  For a team that finished in the bottom three in the league in rushing defense in each of the last two years, that is a bad prospect.  This part of the team may be a weakness, but with some of the young talent, including Nassib, it may also be the source of some electricity.  There is potential here, but the team’s success this year will largely depend on how well and how quickly this unit starts to click. 

Q:  Who should LeBron start in place of for week one?

Big$:  I’m not anti-RG3, but after watching what a physical specimen like Cam Newton has accomplished at QB, I’d like to see LBJ calling signals. For what it’s worth, I’d also start JR Smith at punter.

K-Dubs, the Soldier: I’d start LeBron over nose tackle Danny Shelton.  It is uncertain if Shelton is going to stay on the field for an entire series at a time.  When he is out there, he has not shown he can eat up blockers or penetrate the line.  At least we know LeBron is always on the floor when needed, and even if he gets driven off the ball, he can use his wingspan to swat down passes, just like he swats Steph Curry layups. 

Q:  The Browns over/under on wins is 5. Where would you put your money? What games can they win?

Big$: I am a betting man, and I would stay clear of the over. I am not altogether certain this roster is superior to the Chris Palmer gang of ‘99. The game I’m most confident of is this week, mainly because I think Wentz is a bum. If this game gets ugly, a historically bad year could be on the horizon.

K-Dubs, the Soldier: I’m thinking under, too.  The schedule is pretty rough, with games against the AFC East and NFC East, as well as the divisional games against the Steelers, Ravens, and Bengals.  Also, most of the games in which they have the best chances to win are on the road, including at Tennessee, Miami, Bills, Washington, and the opener in Philly.  But I believe that they will be competitive in every game.  It hurts to think that this year will be the 18th-straight rebuilding year, but I really do believe that this time the Browns are laying the foundation for success.

    Sep 11      1:00PM * at Eagles

    Sep 18      1:00PM * Ravens

    Sep 25      1:00PM * at Dolphins

    Oct 2        1:00PM * at Redskins

    Oct 9        1:00PM * Patriots

    Oct 16      1:00PM* at Titans

    Oct 23      1:00PM * at Bengals

    Oct 30      1:00PM * Jets

    Nov 6       1:00PM * Cowboys

    Nov 10     8:25PM * at Ravens

    Nov 20     1:00PM * Steelers

    Nov 27     1:00PM * Giants

    Dec 4      BYE

    Dec 11      1:00PM * Bengals

    Dec 18      1:00PM * at Bills

    Dec 24      1:00PM * Chargers

    Jan 1         1:00PM * at Steelers

 

Is Bob Stoops the Tom Izzo of College Football? Baver Answers the Question and More

Colin: Before getting into the Buckeyes, why does Les Miles have so much trouble putting an offense together at LSU? He has the best running back in the nation, loads of talent, but no offensive philosophy year after year. Can't he just hire some guy to figure it out?

Baver: Amazing. This should be LSU’s best team in years and I was thinking it would be one of Wisconsin’s worst teams in years. Miles has an offensive coordinator in Cam Cameron that was an OC in the NFL for 10 years, but Cameron appears to be part of the problem. And we know Brandon Harris is a BIG problem at QB. You mention the talent… the 2017 NFL draft for LSU prospects may play out similarly to the way the 2016 draft played out for Ohio State prospects.

Colin: As long as we are talking about coaches on the hot seat, could Bob Stoops be in trouble after taking a beating from the upstart Houston Cougers?

Baver: I would seriously doubt it. Stoops seems to be CFB fans’ whipping boy. The perception is so different in CFB than it is in CBB. Stoops’ accomplishments in football, to me, look like Tom Izzo’s accomplishments in basketball. And Izzo is considered a coaching genius, right? I usually find myself defending Stoops who seems to take a bunch of abuse when he loses, yet gets little to no credit when he wins.

Colin: Is there any chance Alabama doesn't make the football playoff this year?

Baver: They are sick. OSU may do some catching up to Bama talent wise with the 2017 recruiting class, but as for the 2016 season, Bama’s talent is in a league of it’s own. And their road trips to Baton Rouge and Knoxville, no longer look so daunting, do they? A lock for the playoff? Alabama looks like the closest thing to it, but they’ll have to guard against complacency.

Colin: Onto the Buckeyes, Wow. I've seen many ass a whoopins' in the shoe but that was the most yards EVER. Could this offense be that special or was it just a good day?

Baver: I don’t care if it was Bowling Green; this Buckeye offense is much farther along than I think even the coaches could have imagined five months ago. But being so young, I think you will still see some ups and downs out of this offense, and we’ll of course learn a lot more the Bucks when they head west to Norman.

Colin: Losing Sprinkle depletes a thin D-line  further. After watching the Badgers run it down LSU throats, could that be the Achilles heel of the 2016 Buckeyes? 

Baver: Maybe. They’ll soon find out. By the end of October, they will have faced the Perine/Mixon combo, Corey Clements, Saquon Barley, and Justin Jackson. According to Phil Steele, that’s the best tailback in the Big 12 (Perine) and the 3 best backs in the Big Ten.

Colin: After watching film, which Buckeyes jumped out at you and what was your take away both good and bad? And what area do we need to improve before heading down to Norman?

Baver: Samuel’s huge day overshadowed Mike Weber’s very nice start to his career at Ohio State. It wasn’t just his running; the kid more than held is own as a blocker. And it was amazing to see JT and the receiving corps clicking that well together in game 1. They did get help too from the O-line that kept JT upright (I believe) the entire time he was in there.

As for the D, the tackling was very good, and I was surprised at how well Joe Burger played while subbing for an injured Dante Booker. And Malik Hooker? You can take away his 2 picks and he was still amazing to watch; the kid covers so much ground and does so at light speed.

Where does Ohio State need to improve prior to the OU game? The Bucks did not do a great job pressuring Bowling Green QB James Knapke. I would think the pass rush and DT depth is the biggest concern for the OSU coaches right now.

Colin: Tulsa has no chance right? 

Baver: Little chance, but remember the Northern Illinois game last year? The Bucks were a 34 ½ pt favorite and won 20-13. And this seems like a spot for a letdown sandwiched between the opener and Oklahoma. Tulsa has a good one at QB in Dane Evans, but likes to run their tailbacks out of the spread. They averaged 37 ppg last year, putting up 38 on Oklahoma and 52 on Va Tech. Problem is, their defense can’t stop anybody.

Colin: OK, rough week picking last week after going 24-14 last season. Let's chalk it up to an unpredictable first week and scratch them from your record. What games and lines will you be watching this week?

Baver: Ugly slate of games this week… Gotta take Arkansas getting 7 1/2 at TCU, one of the few half-decent games of the week. The TCU defense stunk up the joint last week and they are built to stop Big 12 passing attacks; not a good matchup against a power-run Arkansas team. I like Kentucky catching 16 ½ at Florida. Can Florida’s offense even top 16 ½ points? If I’m a bettor, I stay away from the Ohio State game again this week, but hold a gun to my head, and I’ll take the Bucks laying the 29, with a score somewhere in the ballpark of 56-24. (Editor's note: with severe storms now expected around kick-off, Baver is switching this pick but the weather has made the game too tough to call)

Browns Kickoff Party at Four String Brew with The League Bowlers

The Cleveland Browns will be kicking off the season at 1 pm on Sunday September 11th  against the Philadelphia Eagles. To celebrate the occasion, Pencilstorm Browns bloggers The North Coast Posse will be converging on the Four String Brew Taproom (985 W. 6th) at noon to begin their annual tradition of heavy self-medication to survive another Browns campaign. Four String Brew will be the NCP home of the Browns for the 2016 season.

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As if watching two of the NFL's worst teams play while day drinking wasn't enough, The League Bowlers (featuring Four String Owner Dan Cochran on the 4 string bass, duh) will be performing a set of rock n roll at noon. The event is FREE. See you there!

 

 

Why Is Michigan Getting So Much Love? Is Harbaugh Nutz? Baver Answers and Picks Some Winners.

Colin: Why Is Michigan getting so much love? Who is their quarterback anyway? 

Baver: Michigan probably deserves more respect than Buckeye fans are giving them. But they need to beat at least one of Ohio State or Sparty on the road this year, two schools that absolutely own them, to deserve the love they are getting. As for the QB, Harbaugh is of course doing things in atypical fashion, not naming a starter in fall camp for the 2nd year in a row. But it looks like Wilton Speight will get the first shot. He played against the Bucks last year and did not impress. It’s either Speight, Houston transfer John O’Korn, or a combination of both of them against Hawaii tomorrow. The Wolverines are suspect at QB, RB & LB, but look strong everywhere else, and actually upgraded with Defensive Coordinators with Don Brown replacing DJ Durkin.

Colin: Harbaugh seems to be acting a little extra crazy these days and a couple of recruits have recently jumped ship. Is his act going to fly or do you think his eccentric behavior could become a problem with recruits sooner than later?

Baver: Colin, usually it’s you shooting from the hip and me sugar coating it. It’s not eccentric behavior; it’s a complete freak show with Harbaugh. I watched his interview with the BTN media guys at the Big Ten Media days…and the guy is out there. He didn’t say anything crazy in that interview, but his facial expressions, his delivery when he talks….he is just a bizarre guy. The guy can coach; I’ll give him that, but his strange ways don’t help him in recruiting.

Colin: How would you rate the Big Ten compared to other conferences? What teams have a shot at making the playoff?

Baver: I think it’s the SEC and then a bit of a drop-off, as much as I hate to admit it. The other four Power Five conferences are all neck and neck in my mind – I could see the Big Ten finishing anywhere from 2nd to 5th in terms of conference computer ratings at year-end. I think Michigan and Ohio State have legit shots at the playoff, and maybe even Sparty. But Sparty isn’t going to win any tie-breakers from the committee after laying the egg they laid against Bama in last year’s playoff. Iowa has a longer shot at the playoff, but does play all of their big games at home

Colin: If Pencilstorm could send you to cover five games anywhere in the country this season, which five would you pick?

Baver: I don’t need to necessarily leave Columbus for all of ‘em do I?  Because OSU-Michigan in the ‘Shoe goes without saying; LSU-Bama down on the bayou; Clemson-Florida State at Doak Campbell Stadium.  Ohio State-Oklahoma in Norman (and I was actually there with my old man in ’83, and remember it like it was yesterday). And Bama-Tennessee in Knoxville. When is my prepaid expense check coming?

Colin: Looking around the country, do you have any dark horse picks for the CFB playoff or do you expect the usual suspects?

Baver: I like Clemson to win it all. On paper, they are a top-3 team in the country (in my mind) and have the easiest road to the title of all the big boys. As a dark horse, I think Louisville is worth a flyer, and I said that before Lamar Jackson put up video game highlights last night. I’ve got Clemson & LSU in the title game. I think this is Les Miles’ best team since his ’07 team that beat Ohio State in the title game. I think Bama’s schedule probably puts them in the loss column twice this year, but it of course wouldn’t shock me to see them win their 5th title in 8 years.

Colin:  Some interesting match ups in week one. Which games will you be keeping and eye on and who would you put $ on if you did that sort of thing? If I remember right, you lit it up against the spread last year, right?

Baver: 24-14-1 against the spread a year ago, but I am due for some duds this year after knocking ‘em down two straight years. I like Florida State laying 4 ½ as the best play on the board. They’ve got so much coming back and Ole Piss is breaking in a new team that won’t be ready in Wk 1. I like Clemson (-7 ½) to win and cover at Auburn, despite Clemson struggling a bit on the road (ATS wise) last year. I like LSU (-11) to roll Wisconsin in Green Bay. And I picked Bowling Green to cover the 28 against our Buckeyes in the OSU Q&A we had, but I think that spread is pretty sharp.

How Do You Attack the OSU Defense? Baver Answers This and More.

Colin: With all these rough road match-ups, is J.T. Barrett the most important QB since Art Schlichter? How hurting are we if he goes down? 

Baver: I'm not sure if we have to go all the way back to Schlichter, but JT is pretty damn important. Joe Burrow would bring a different set of tools to the Buckeye offense. I like Burrow’s upside, but I think the offense would have to change too much if they had to make the switch. Compare that to JT replacing Braxton in 2014 where the two QBs had similar strengths that they brought to the table. You didn't have to revamp the offense much to make that switch. Also you mention the road games…JT was a man possessed in overtime at Penn State in 2014. He had a sprained knee, but no one had any luck convincing him to come out of the game, and I think he willed Ohio State to victory in the two overtime periods.

Colin: How would you attack the OSU defense?  

Baver: Hard to answer at this point with all the new guys, and with Schiano now making the defensive calls. It will probably be the most athletic defense Ohio State has ever fielded. Prevailing wisdom says: run at the speed, as opposed to away from it, right? Oklahoma has two backs custom built to do just that…..Samaje Perine and Joe Mixon…that’s a 235-pound RB backed up by a 226-pounder. And, Ohio State lacks that 310-pound-plus nose tackle that most teams have now a days.

I tend to think OSU's pass D will be the teams #1 strength, with the key defenders being ready to play right out of the shoot. As good as Baker Mayfield is, I am not sure he wants to test OSU’s secondary too much….especially when you have the Perine/Mixon combo to pound away with. 

So, that's at least how I would attack OSU's D if I'm Oklahoma.

Colin: What players do you think will break out on offense? 

Baver: I’ll say the #1 breakout guy will be Curtis Samuel, followed by Noah Brown. I’ve seen enough flashes out of Samuel to take him over Noah Brown, a WR that has one catch in his career here. But you know what “they” are saying once again this August….that Brown has been a beast in practice. The other guy that could get there is Corey Smith, but he again seems to found his way into Urban’s dog house….not a place where I would want to hang out for too long. 

Colin: How does the OSU-Bowling Green game play out? 

Baver: Bowling Green has the best set of LBs in the MAC and may have more success than you might think defending Ohio State's offense. And I think the Buckeyes will replace their defensive stars better than BG will replace their All-MAC departed QB Matt Johnson. If you sync the games over/under (64 1/2) with the 28-point spread , Vegas sees the Bucks winning this one 46-18. Both team totals seem high, and I tend to think OSU will commit some turnovers on offense with 8 new starters. My best guess is Ohio State wins by an approx score of 38-14…so I have BG covering the 28. Probably smart to stay away from this game though if you are a bettor…just too many first-time starters and too many new (key) coaches for both teams.

Colin: What are your best, worse and most realistic case win totals prediction for this year's Ohio State Football team? 

Baver: 11-1 tops, 8-4 the worst, and 10-2 the most likely scenario.