Was the Raiders Game Fixed? The NCP Answer Your Browns Questions.

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The season is one quarter of the way in and the Browns sit at 1-2-1. Can this be considered a success?

Punter Supreme: Improvement: yes.  Success: No. Viewing a losing record as success just speaks to how bad the Browns have been.  More than anything, there is hope now. Not just blind faith as in recent seasons. We can see real improvement on both sides of the ball and it is creating some real excitement.  If the Browns win this week against the hated Ravens, I will boof an entire 40 oz. of Bud Light. Dilly Dilly to the B.

Big $: In professional sports, moral victories carry very little weight. Success is measured in wins and losses and the Browns record still reflects a losing culture. True success will come when they can truly start finishing games.

Which loss has been most painful?

Punter Supreme: So far, last week’s Oakland game was hard to swallow.  All the losses hurt, but taking an L after having a very rare two-score lead was difficult to watch.  


Baker Mayfield and Denzel Ward are shaping up to be the best first round picks the Browns have had in a long time. How excited should Browns fans be about the future?


Big $: Having the Baker Buzz killed hurt more than the Tyrod losses. However, it may be the dose of common sense us Browns fans needed moving forward.


People drool all over the defense but they don't exactly close games out. How good are they? 


Punter Supreme: The jury is still out on this one.  Only 7 teams give up more yards per game, and only 3 give up more time of possession.  But they are a top-10 defense in terms of 3rd-down conversions allowed, and they average more than 3 takeaways per game.  The defense needs more consistency, but I think that will come as the younger players continue to develop. Even though they gave up 45 points to the lowly Raiders, they get a bit of a pass, because the offense had a few turnovers inside the Browns own 20 yard line that gave the Raiders a short field.

The Browns lost starting CB Terrance Mitchell to a broken his wrist last week, but the team has so much more depth in the secondary this season compared to years past that the unit should be able to fill the void he left.  

Was the Raiders game fixed?

Big $: Do you mean, “Was the game the Browns just played against the franchise that is currently en route to the gambling capital of the universe” fixed? NFL wagering is a billion dollar business and 3 points is thin enough that a call here and there can swing the tide completely. I think it would be naive to think that officials aren’t cognizant of how their actions could move stacks of cash. So in a nutshell, yes I do think there is a reason to believe foul play made an appearance in Oakland.


Looking ahead, what games do the Browns need to win for Hugh to keep his job? 


Punter Supreme: Hue has to win games in the division.  If he goes 0-fer in the AFC North, he is out for sure. If he losses games against other teams at the bottom of their divisions, like Houston and Atlanta, his seat will get hotter.  


Big $. I stated before the season that 2-5 would get Hue fired, and I stand by it, regardless of games won/loss.

What was the mood in Happy Valley after yet another OSU comeback win? - Baver Answers Colin's Questions

Colin: So describe the mood in Happy Valley as the Buckeyes came back again to snatch victory from the Nittany Lions.

Baver: A good number of fans remained in their seats well after the clock hit 0:00. They may have been stunned or just waiting until we (i.e. the obnoxious OSU fans) filed out. I don’t think I heard a word from a Penn St fan as we walked out of Beaver Stadium. Our tailgate was hosted by a PSU professor that we’ve known a long time. I felt sorta bad for the Penn St folks when we made it back to the tailgate. They were pretty down to say the least.

Colin: Did it feel like a victory party up until the big play by Bin Victor? When did panic set in?

Baver: It was the first top-10 matchup in Beaver Stadium in years. I got in the stadium about an hour before kick, and the early arriving Penn St students were already making a ton of noise. When they went up 26-14 with under 9 minutes to go, I think many Penn St fans thought this was going to be a dominating victory over Ohio St. It wasn’t just the score; the stats at that point showed a thorough butt whoopin’ of the 4th ranked team in the country.

I think they still felt they would hang on after the Victor TD, and still felt so when they pinned OSU at their own 4-yard line in front of the PSU student sections. It was probably the screen play on 1stdown, where JK gained 35 yds, when many of the PSU faithful first thought that their nightmare from 11 months prior might be relived.

Colin: How did people in the stands react to the 4th down play call and time out scenario that sealed the deal for the Buckeyes? Where you surprised by the call?

Baver: There wasn’t a lot I heard in the stands. Every OSU fan I talked with was baffled by the call. Personally, I don’t think it was a good call, but I think too much is being made of it. Franklin is of course a genius if the play goes for a big gainer. And many people still don’t know that it was a zone read call, where McSorley had the option to keep. A combination of things went wrong which led to about the worst result you could have on the play. And had McSorley kept it, he would have been smothered. Urban says Schiano told him that Penn St would run the zone read, and that they had called a play to defend it. And defend it Chase, Dre’mont, and company did. 

Colin: The defense really kept us in the game but again gave up a huge play. How do you grade their performance?

Baver: They played their best game of the year. No, this D is still not on par with most defenses that Urban has had, and many things again went wrong….but holding PSU to 26 pts is a pretty good effort. Yes, McSorley ran wild, but the PSU WRs and Miles Sanders did little to nothing. And the OSU D made the last 2 stops when they absolutely had to.

Colin: How about the offense?

Baver: 9 punts….that says a lot. It’s not like this is a dominating Penn St defense. Haskins struggled more than I thought he would and simply could not get in a rhythm. Still, he was pretty calm in leading a 75-yard drive followed by a 96-yard drive in the final 8 minutes when Ohio State had to have 2 TDs. Malcolm Pridgeon struggled at LG and the WR/TE drops hurt big time. But that atmosphere in a night, white-out in Beaver Stadium is ridiculous, and there are too many OSU fans hammering Dwayne. I think he’ll be fine and will learn a lot from this.

Colin: Penn State really should have won the last two meetings which would give James Franklin three straight wins over Urban. How would this change perceptions of the programs?

Baver: “Woulda, coulda, shoulda….it ain’t gonna get the rent paid.” © Watershed, 1997. 

PSU did get the better of Ohio State Saturday with the exception of the final score. But last year, Ohio State dominated in my eyes, having 529 total yds to Penn St’s 283. But PSU did indeed come within a whisker of winning both games. If they had, perception wise, Penn St would be the new kings of the B10, and Chris Fowler would be doing cartwheels.

Colin: Indiana at home this week. Should we fear an Iowa style melt down?

Baver: Indiana always gives OSU trouble and probably will again, at least for a while on Saturday, maybe longer. The Buckeyes are beaten up and really need to rest some guys. And Ohio St is making so many mistakes week in and week out, and committing so many penalties…this could be another one of “those” OSU-Indiana games. I don’t feel great about this one, but with Urban likely hammering his guys about last year’s follow-up game after Penn St, the Bucks should be okay. I’ve got OSU winning 37-17, pulling away in the 2ndhalf. I think the Hoosiers cover the 26.

Colin: Any other games and lines you will be keeping an eye on this weekend?

Baver: I like Florida getting 2 pts at home against LSU. Dan Mullen has Florida playing better and Ed Orgeron is destroying his reputation with LSU’s 5-0 start. With the ND-Va Tech spread now up to 7, I think the Hokies getting a full TD at home, at night is a solid play. I loved the Irish last week, but they pick their spots, and I think Justin Fuente and Va Tech hangs around here.

 

What is Ohio State Walking into Saturday Night? Baver Answers Colin's Questions

Colin: Some potent Ohio State offenses have struggled in the hostile Happy Valley environment. You have been there before and are headed there again this weekend. What makes it such a tough place to score points?

Baver:The noise level is insane….parts of the stadium will vibrate at times when the Nits have it goin’. It’s been complete mayhem for the three games I’ve attended there, 2005, 2014 and 2016 - all white-outs. Their fans can be taken out of the game, as any crowd can if their team is getting hammered. But if they are in the game, the PSU fans sustain their loudness for long periods of time. It’s just so hard to stay in rhythm on offense in that environment. I know Ohio St wasn’t prepared for it in ’05, scoring only 10 pts when they had a high-powered offense.

Colin: On Saturday, If Haskins Jr plays as well against Penn State as JT Barrett did last year, will he become the Heisman front runner? 

Baver: Tua’s got a big lead right now and is going to be tough to pass unless Bama gets upset, and that may not even matter. I see he’s favored against the field right now by some sportsbooks, but Dwayne has the 2nd best odds. Haskins has by far the best skillset I have seen in terms of a passer that has played here. But we’ve seen so many good QBs fade here (Schlichter after his sophomore year, Troy’s infamous last game against Florida, & JT’s passing in late ’16 and ’17), so I’m trying not to get too far ahead of myself with Dwayne.

Colin: Can Penn State hope to hold the Buckeyes to under the 39 points they scored last year in Columbus? 

Baver: 39 sounds about right to me for an over/under on Ohio St’s pts scored. But I worry that OSU might not be able to spell Dobbins. I know Urban said Weber will play, but I’m not so sure. With the pace this Buckeye offense is running at, they need both Weber and Dobbins Saturday night in Beaver Stadium. Still, Ohio State has a lot of weapons, and a gunslinger at QB. And I would argue that TCU has a better defense than Penn State’s.

Colin: Conversely, can this Bosa-less defense hold the Lions to under the 38 they scored against the Bucks in 2017?  

Baver: Do you know how many tackles the three starting Buckeye LBs had against Tulane? Zero. Unreal. I have no confidence in this LB crew, so the OSU D-line and DBs have to get it done. Chase Young needs to come up big. And the so-called 50/50 balls that McSorley throws up? Those passes are completed every time I’m watching…which is why anyone calling them 50/50 balls is selling McSorely and his WRs short. 38 pts by the Nits Saturday? That’s another number that again sounds about right to me. 

Colin: Nationally, where do you think the OSU v PSU game fits among much watch college rivalries? 

Baver: It’s not there yet, but as long as Urban and James Franklin hang around, this game is going to huge, and the rivalry is going grow big time.

Colin: Final thoughts and prediction? 

Baver: I’ll give the slightest advantage to Ohio State here, as they have fewer personnel questions and better depth. But many of OSU advantages are somewhat offset by the edge Penn State gains in playing Ohio State at night in Beaver Stadium in a white-out. Dwayne hasn’t showed any signs of getting in a funk on the big stage, but this will be unlike anything he has played in. I tend to think he will again hold up well as long as the pass protection is at least adequate. I do worry about Miles Sanders and KJ Hamler possibly both coming up big Saturday night for the Penn State offense (and Hamler as on returns). Hamler is 170 pounds soaking wet, but the kid is electric.

The last two gms have decided by a total of 4 pts and the ’14 gm there went double-OT. I tend to think it will be another one of those games. 

Prediction: Ohio State 42 Penn State 40.

Colin: Know you are traveling but any other games you will be checking in on this weekend? 

Baver: The spread is higher than I thought it would be with Notre Dame currently a 5½ pt favorite over Stanford. But the timing of this game really gives the Irish a big advantage. I think Notre Dame has been waiting on Stanford, while the Cardinal had that emotional comeback win in Eugene last Saturday night. I don’t think they will have much left in the tank, and really like Notre Dame at home in this spot. And I really like the move to Ian Book at QB.

I’ll leave it at that, other than picking OSU to win, but not covering in a very tight game. And we’re going to see a lot of fireworks Saturday night. Can’t wait.