Ten Albums That Changed My Life - by JCE

Not my ten favorite albums, not my “desert island discs,” but the ten albums that CHANGED MY LIFE. Don’t get me wrong, none of these records got me off of a ledge or anything. It’s just that rock and roll music, after family, means more to me than anything. So, certain records that impact how I feel and what I listen to, really do change my day-to-day life on occasion. Here we go:

1. Paul Revere and the Raiders / Greatest Hits – My first LP record. I had purchased quite a few 45 rpm’s, but this was my first full length album. I bought it for their cover of “Louie, Louie” which I could not find on a 45 but I had to have it. My Mom took me to Korvettes department store and I paid for it with nickels and dimes. When I got it home, I discovered that most every song on it was great, especially “Kicks.” And so began my full-on rock n roll addiction. This was released in 1967, but I know I must’ve been more than four years old when I got it, but I’m not sure how old. It’s very fitting that “many now see it as a bold 1960’s rock n roll record with a defiant punk edge” according to one review I just read.

2. The Beach Boys / Endless Summer – I played this double-LP in my room and day-dreamed about girls for hours and hours on end. I had a little all-in-one stereo that I absolutely loved, and I think my true love for vinyl records began with this one. It had a gatefold cover and great artwork. It was released in 1974. I loved the song “Wendy.” I would have been eleven or twelve years old when I got it. Yep, that sounds about right.

3. The Cars – My sister Molly went to Boston University (we lived in Virginia). She discovered a local band there called The Cars, right before they broke it big. When their debut came out in 1978, I got a copy on her advice and I loved every song on it from the first day. I had been listening non-stop to the first Van Halen record, which I also loved, and which had been released a few months before The Cars record. The Cars were the band that somehow sent me down the path to punk rock. R.I.P. Molly, I miss you.

4. The Clash – I probably got this record having never heard any songs on it. It was already older (1977) than the Cars record, but I didn’t learn about The Clash and the Sex Pistols and punk rock until after. I will always love everything about this record. It led me on a direct path to The Damned, The Stranglers, Siouxsie and the Banshees, The Buzzcocks, 999, Stiff Little Fingers, Generation X and on and on…. HUGE impact on my life.

5. Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers / Damn the Torpedoes – This record just couldn’t be any better. In high school, being a punk and a skater made me somewhat of an outcast. Damn the Torpedoes was one record I could play that I was pretty sure everyone could agree was pure genius. “Here Comes My Girl” was a song that ran a shiver up my back every time I heard it, still does. The record was released late in 1979. I would have been a junior. The record got me through some of those times when I felt a little alone, maybe a little too much like a loner. I don’t know why, it just spoke to me. It still does.

6. X / Los Angeles – After about a year listening to punk mostly from across the big pond, this record came out and re-energized me. I found it to be scary and dangerous and urgent. It is truly one of my favorite records and one I feel is very important. I consider the Dead Kennedy’s “Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables” almost equal to this X record, but I got the X record first, so it gets on my list. Both records came out in 1980.

7. Government Issue / Joy Ride – With my musical tastes firmly entrenched in punk rock, I found myself immersed in the punk scene which was percolating in the city in which I was born, Washington, D.C. The HarD.C.ore scene was very exciting to me, but being honest, I felt that quite a bit of the music itself was not up to par with other stuff I was listening to. Initially, I found it hard to truly enjoy the super-speed, play-as-fast-as-you-can style coming from the D.C. hardcore punk scene. Then I discovered Government Issue. John Stabb (R.I.P.) was spectacular live. This 1984 release had a song on it called “Understand” that really got a hold of me, although every song on the record is great. From this record, I embraced HarD.C.ore and I still listen to a steady diet of it today. I have many fond memories of the scene in its heyday.

8. The Neighborhoods / The High Hard One – There was a guy in the music scene in Charlottesville, VA, where I went to college, by the name of Maynard. Maynard played in some great bands and he promoted some shows. He started putting up fliers all over town one day that said “Fire Is Coming.” I didn’t know what it meant at first, until I found out it was the name of an EP by a band from Boston called The Neighborhoods. I got very close to a bunch of amazing people in Charlottesville, including, eventually, my wife. We all saw tons of great shows, went to every gig played by our friends in a band called 98 Colours (some of those opening for the ‘Hoods)—it was a great time in my life. Everyone I knew absolutely loved The Neighborhoods upon the release of “The High Hard One.” I must’ve played “WUSA” ten thousand times. This record, for me, was the soundtrack for one of the happiest times of my life. I actually like the “Reptile Men” record even better, but this was the record (1986) that I associate with discovering so many new things and new people and so much new music.

9. Enuff Z’Nuff – From the hair metal, Sunset Strip, glam and sleaze era, a few bands emerged that were so much more and so far above many bands from that genre. Every song on it is excellent and because of this record, I began listening to some different bands that I may have previously blown off as “not punk enough.” On the more metal side, I discovered The Hangmen. On the pop side, I went back and rediscovered my love of Cheap Trick. I started dating the beautiful woman that has now been my wife for 27 years in 1990. This Enuff Z’Nuff record, released in 1989, was played damn near every single day for the first few months of our relationship. We saw the band at The Bayou in Georgetown as they toured in support of this record. We have a handful of “our songs” but this is definitely “our record.”

10. Social Distortion – This self-titled release came out in 1990. The album “Mommy’s Little Monster” was released in 1983 and I have been a Social Distortion fan since that time. There are a number of reasons why this record is on my list. This record came out the year I started dating my wife, and like the Enuff Z’Nuff record, it was a record we loved together. The song “Ball and Chain” is one of my all-time favorites, and my wife adores the Johnny Cash cover, “Ring of Fire.” The record also includes “Sick Boy” and “Story of My Life,” which are both classics. My wife and I gave up alcohol for about twelve years, during the time that we conceived our daughter and during the formative years after she was born. We also saw very little live music during that period of time. Upon taking up beer and wine drinking after a long hiatus, the first show we went to see was Social Distortion at the 9:30 Club in D.C. in October 2010. It was so frigging awesome that we have been to see an average of more than a show per month from that day to the present. I recently got my first tattoo, to honor my sister who I lost, and during the process, at my request, the artist played the Social Distortion Pandora radio station. I can’t express how truly integral music is to my daily life, and this very personal experience was definitely enhanced by the soundtrack that accompanied it. This band has meant a great deal to me since 1983. This particular record is the most representative of the impact they have had

This list is in chronological order.  I cannot guarantee that the list wouldn’t change if I thought about it longer, but I think I’m pretty happy with it.  You might notice there is nothing on the list newer than 1990.  That may be a mistake, as I love and continue to collect music now just as much or even more than ever.  I love music more than ever, but there probably just aren’t that many instances where it can change my life at this point.  My list is heavy on the 1977-1980 releases, but I think that’s natural because when you’re 15 years old, your life is just starting to take shape.  This is a list of records that truly left their mark. - JCE

(editor’s note: JCE thinks it might be cool if some/all of the other Pencilstorm writers - Colin, Ricki C, Anne Marie, Scott Carr, etc. write up THEIR life-changing disc picks. For that matter, it might be nice if we could figure a way for READERS of Pencilstorm to chip in and send their two cents worth on the matter, participatory journalism at its best.)

Will it ever end with McMurphy and could there be more to come? Baver Answers Colin's Question - Terp Week

Colin: Was it just me or did Urban look more like his old self last Saturday in East Lansing? Did I see some swagger?

Baver: The one-two combo punch on the sideline (seen on Twitter HERE) was vintage Meyer....wasn’t it? Yeah, I think he was much more at ease than he has been...not exactly sure why. And the Buckeyes landed two verbal commitments last week. This may indicate that the chances of Urban bailing after this season aren’t so great after all. We shall see.

Colin: I’m not sure it will ever end with Brett McMurphy. Is there anything at all behind McMurphy’s latest piece where Buckeye Nation should fear that there’s more to come? At least Urban handled himself pretty well this time around.

Baver: McMurphy outdid himself with this one. His #1 source is an admitted drug dealer that has had two domestic violence charges filed against him within the last 8 years, with both of the cases being dismissed. This....after McMurphy crucified Zach Smith for strikingly similar charges and nearly identical legal outcomes. You can’t make this s--- up. So far, this has backfired on McMurphy, and has lessened his credibility on the national spectrum. 

As far as a fear of more to come...many think Trevon actually did make the claim that Zach Smith called him a “bitch ass n-----", but few believe it ever happened. As for Urban taking his trip to Florida to deal with the racial slur accusation, that wouldn’t shock me. If Trevon did make the claim, but made it up, it would make sense to me why Urban would want to deal with the issue immediately....and obviously privately. Going down there to try to quiet a family whose son had been called a bitch ass n----- by one of his assistants would be career suicide for Meyer, and makes no sense. So, there may be more to come, but I tend to think OSU is okay here.

Colin: The Buckeyes looked better but without the heroic effort from Drue Chrisman I’m not sure Ohio State comes away with the win. How do you view OSU’s performance in East Lansing? And as an aside...has any team ever started 6 consecutive drives inside their 6-yard line?

Baver: You make a good point about Chrisman possibly saving the Buckeyes in this one, but I think this win was huge for Ohio St. And the word is that the Buckeye locker room was quite the scene in the post-game. The Bucks definitely needed some self-assurance and got a big confidence-shot in the arm. There was progress with the running game again, and this time it was against the nation’s #1 rated rush defense. And the fundamentals on defense were without a doubt the best we’ve seen all year. 

6 straight punts downed inside the 6...is that what it was with Chrisman and the punt coverage unit? Unheard of....gotta be some kind of record.

Colin: Ohio State as a 4-point favorite beats a ranked Michigan St team in East Lansing by 20 points and falls in the coaches and AP polls while making up no ground in the playoff rankings. What gives? And what are OSU’s chances of making the playoff with the win in East Lansing not moving the needle for these voters? 

Baver: Actually dropping in the polls made me chuckle a bit....seems a bit absurd. But like I have said I think about every year at this time....let’s see how things play out over the last few weeks before we decide whether OSU was slotted fairly by the committee. I tend to think if they win out, OSU is probably in, but it’s not a given that winning out gets them in. And while I’ll admit the chances of OSU winning out are less than 50%, I will tell you that those chances are definitely better than the 0% that I hear some OSU fans and naysayers claiming.

Colin: Other Maryland type teams like Minnesota, Indiana and Nebraska have hung tough with Ohio State for much of the games or for the entire games. And if a game ever fit the definition of a trap-game it would be one that was sandwiched between Michigan State and Michigan. Can the Terps upset Ohio State...and how do you see this one playing out?

Baver: It’s indeed a losable game if OSU plays like they did in the games you mentioned. They will need to play good D again, as acting Maryland head coach Matt Canada knows a thing or two about coaching an offense. And if there is a look-ahead to the showdown against team up north, OSU is in for a struggle against the Terps. But I finally see this Buckeye team gaining some steam after the 26-6 win in East Lansing. Maryland lost by 21 to both Michigan and Michigan St, while losing to Iowa by 23. Their success in Big Ten play occurred in games against the bottom feeders. And to boot, the Terps may be about out of gas. I’ve got the Buckeyes winning and think the Bucks are a strong play laying 14½ pts. I’ve got Ohio State 41 Maryland 20 in what should be pretty good weather in College Park, Md for mid-November.

Restaurant coffee in the 1960's tasted like swill - by David Martin

What was on the mind of the writers and editors of the San Francisco Chronicle in 1963? The shitty coffee being served in the city's restaurants.

Chronicle culture writer Peter Hartlaub today marked the 50th anniversary of the paper's war on dismal coffee. The three-part (!) series featured the magical headline "A Great City's People Forced to Drink Swill."

Sample passage:

San Francisco restaurants buy more than three million pounds of coffee every year from processors who profess to instruct them meticulously in its proper preparation.

Yet for all the money the restaurants spend, and for all the effort the coffee companies put forth to make their product palatable, most of it tastes as though it came from some vast common reservoir up behind Twin Peaks in which it had been brewed by the three scrofulous witches in Macbeth.

Now that's public journalism!

Hartlaub's story reminded me of a passage from David Owen's profile of George Meyer, one of the driving forces behind The Simpsons. In the piece, Owen explains that Meyer was hired to work on show largely on the strength of a small humor magazine he published called Army Man.

Despite its modest appearance, Army Man attracted a surprisingly broad and loyal following. It made Rolling Stone's Hot List in 1989, and for years it circulated in samizdat on college campuses. "The only rule was that the stuff had to be funny and pretty short," Meyer told me. "To me, the quintessential Army Man joke was one of John Swartzwelder's: 'They can kill the Kennedys. Why can't they make a cup of coffee that tastes good?' It's a horrifying idea juxtaposed with something really banal — and yet there's a kind of logic to it. It's illuminating because it's kind of how Americans see things: Life's a big jumble, but somehow it leads to something I can consume. I love that."

By the way, the guy who took the pictures for the Chronicle's series on coffee is the same guy who took the picture of the Marines raising the flag at Iwo Jima.

Little Steven Van Zandt is Playing at the Newport THIS Wednesday Night, and You Should Go - by Ricki C.

Little Steven & the Disciples of Soul will be appearing at the Newport Music Hall Wednesday, November 14th. Doors are at 7 pm, details available here: Little Steven & the Disciples of Soul.

I didn’t see Bruce Springsteen & the E Street Band for the first time until April 5th, 1976, at the Ohio Theater here in Columbus, Ohio on the Born To Run tour.  Consequently, I never saw the E Street Band when it did not contain Little Steven Van Zandt – or “Miami Steve” as he was nicknamed in those days – on lead guitar & harmony vocals.  Despite everything I read back then in the rock press of the 1970’s before that 1976 tour – about the legendary prowess of Bruce Springsteen as a live performance force of nature from the very beginnings of his career – I cannot believe the E Street Band was EVER as good WITHOUT Steven Van Zandt as they were WITH him.   

People tend to forget that Bruce didn’t play much lead guitar until the Darkness On The Edge Of Town tour in 1978.  That first night at the Ohio Theater, and the next show I saw, in 1977 at Veteran’s Memorial in Columbus (the so-called “Lawsuit Tour” when the E Street Band were scrabbling out a living on the road after being sued by original manager Mike Appel), Little Steven carried the lion’s share of the lead guitar duties in the soul-smashing E Street Band. 

And make no mistake, though Big Man Clarence Clemons on saxophone was undoubtedly Springsteen’s main onstage foil in those mid-period E Street Band days – and I LOVED Clemons’ stage presence & superlative playing – it was Van Zandt who was the Keith Richards to Bruce’s Jagger, that sure and steady hand on the rock & roll rudder that kept everything locked TIGHT and rocking. 

So did it break my heart a little when Van Zandt left the E Street Band in the 1980’s to go solo?  Yeah, I admit it did.  And do I believe for one minute that any of Steven’s “replacements” in the E Street Band – Nils Lofgren, Tom Morello – could (or should) follow five paces behind Little Steven and carry his guitar case, great as they are in their own way?  No, I really don’t.  

And don’t even get me started on Steven’s sartorial style or the verbal brilliance he deploys on his Underground Garage Sirius radio channel.

Anyway, I could go on gushing like a 15-year old girl all night, but here’s the point: If you can’t get yourself out to New York City and the Great White Way to witness Bruce Springsteen On Broadway, at least get yourself over to The Newport on Wednesday night and see some rock & roll the way it should be done.  It can’t hurt ya.  – Ricki C. / November 13th, 2018 

The Pencilstorm Interview: Jerry David DeCicca - by Colin Gawel

Now residing in Texas, Jerry David DeCicca returns to his old haunt of Columbus for a show Sunday, November 11th at Ace of Cups. (2619 N High St.), 6pm showtime. (Click here for more info ). Jerry is spending the rest of 2018 touring to support his latest record, Burning Daylight, released on Super Secret Records. He was nice enough to tap out some answers to my questions on his phone while traveling. - Colin Gawel

C.G. - You released two very different sounding full length records in 2018. Was that always the plan? What got into you?

J.D.D. - I wrote the songs on Time the Teacher awhile ago, thinking I’d be recording them in Texas with an acoustic guitar - lots of fingerpicking - and some friends. But then the chance to work with some UK producers came up. They wanted to take my songs out of that dude-with-acoustic guitar world (which has always been a bit cliche, but more artistically conservative than ever lately) and create a new world for my songs with piano, horns, and backing vocalists. They removed my guitar. It took a while to make that album. Lots of bouncing files & mixes, that sort of stuff. Then there were big labels interested, because they loved the album, then not interested because I’m, uh, old-ish and lacking metadata and management. (I think that’s a nice way to put it...) So then the producers released it on their own label. Well, that took up a ton of calendar pages. In the meantime, Super Secret Records in Austin asked me to make record for them, so I did that, too. It just piled up. I thought releasing two records - and my best two, I think - in the same year might be cool, especially because of how different the records are from one another. I may have been wrong. The verdict is still out.

C.G. - You recently wrote an excellent essay about your affection for 90's-era Springsteen and fighting your own depression demons in your youth. Did you subconsciously create your own Human Touch and Lucky Town? (Click here to read the essay at Talkhouse.com)

J.D.D. - Well, Human Touch was an exercise. Lucky Town is high art. Darkness & The River are probably better analogies, though I’m comparing them in terms of ideology, sound, and politics more than similar levels of quality. And I appreciate you reading that essay - it was easy to write, tough to live.

C.G. - In related news, you have the drummer who played on Lucky Town playing on Burning Daylight. You always seem to work with an eclectic range of musicians on your projects, what is your process for deciding who plays on what?

J.D.D. - In music, as an artistic pursuit and a marginal career, geography is destiny. I use what’s accessible to me and what feels right. I try not to reach too far away from a home base for collaborators - I’m still more comfortable having looked into the whites of the eyes of players to give life to my songs. Making records with people is still intimate to me. Time the Teacher was full of brilliant strangers, but one of the producers I deeply trust, so that’s what helped me let go of control. The drummer in Burning Daylight, Gary Mallaber, has long been a favorite. He took a bigger leap of faith than me, flying into nowhere west Texas based on a random phone call. I am working with more strangers these days, but that’s because I moved somewhere not knowing many people. But, I’ve got good instincts and music is still my vehicle to make new friends.

C.G. - You seem to spend as much time producing records for other folks as you do recording your own songs. What’s happening on that side of the glass?

J.D.D. - I just wrapped up final mixes & approving masters for two records I produced due out next year. One is a new Chris Gantry record. It’s gonna blow minds, best thing he’s ever done. He had one huge hit, “Dreams of the Everyday Housewife,” that Glen Campbell cut. He was a favorite writer of Johnny Cash and Kristofferson, had lots of other cuts. It’s an incredible album. He’s in his 70’s and one of the best acoustic guitar players I’ve ever heard. The other artist is a guy named Will Beeley. He had two records in the 70’s reissued by Tompkins Square recently. This is his first in almost 40 years. We made it in San Antonio. He’s an over-the-road trucker now. You’ve heard of Americana Fest? All those people are bullshit, playing & writing fan fiction, fashionable garbage cans in the shape of an acoustic guitar. Beeley is the real deal. As soon as you hear his voice you’re reminded that authenticity can’t be defined, but you know it when you hear it.

C.G. - Very cool. I’m excited to check both of those out. Switching gears, as a young man, you worked at Used Kids records during the height of the Columbus Indie music scene, alongside such notables as the late Jerry Wick, Bela K. and Ron House. How did a Springsteen-loving newbee such as yourself land such a prestigious gig anyway?

J.D.D. - They were all music freaks. So am I. Freaks attract freaks. I was friends with you back then, too, so connect the dots…..

C.G. - What are some of the bars & bands you remember from your days on High Street?

J.D.D. - Bars: Stache’s, Bernie’s, Larry’s. Everyone at those places were kinder to me than they should have been. Bands: too many to name, but so many Big Brothers & Big Sisters let me tag along. You were a big part of my development. I was 20 years old when you & Joe began tolerating me. You took me inside your house one night and listened to my songs. After 4 or 5 tunes, you told me none of my songs had a bridge, we talked about Dwight Yoakam, and then you taught me how and why to write a bridge, it’s purpose & content, musically & lyrically. I remember every word, still. You were so right!! I was so excited you told me you liked this new record, because I applied what you taught me over 20 years ago to many of these songs. I owe you a beer.

C.G. - Wow! I do remember that night, though the details escape me now. I don’t know how we wound up at the Watershed house on 65 E Patterson, but I suspect it was late and beers were involved. Ok, final question. If I would have told the 20-year old Jerry that in 2018 he would release two full length records and travel from Texas to play a show in Columbus at a club owned by Marci Mays, what would he have thought?

J.D.D. - I would have said: of course! I knew I was going to make records that were art > commerce, that was the plan. I thought it was going to look different than this - more sustainable, more listeners, more opportunity to explore. But that was the 90’s then, the heyday of music, financially, where money trickled down to weirdos like me. I knew I was going to live somewhere else. I love Columbus, but also obsessed with the adventure of the Next. I mean, when I was 20, I was still a kid. But I knew I valued music as art, that I wanted it to be heavy and deep and be taken seriously. I really do appreciate how sweet you were to me back then. It meant a ton, then & now.

C.G - Always a pleasure, my friend. Safe travels and hope to take you up on that beer soon.

Brendon White, Michigan St, & Realistic Expectations at this Point - Baver Answers Colins Questions: Sparty Week

Colin: What changes did you notice coming off the bye week?

Baver: The running game looked much more like you would expect from a Buckeye offense. A much better job opening holes for the backs, and both tailbacks kicked it up a notch. Going away from the RPO, and getting back to basic run calls obviously made a big difference. Of course, Nebraska’s defense is pretty bad, so you have to take that into account as well. 

We saw offensive guard Wyatt Davis used as a third tight end, and OSU had much better results on short yardage plays. Again though....you have to remember that defense is in the developmental stages at Nebraska right now, and is still optional.

This isn’t necessarily a bye week change, but the Buckeyes made a concerted effort to contain JD Spielman after he lit them up to the tune of 200 receiving yds last year. Containing Spielman was key...if they hadn’t, you are probably looking at a 2-loss Buckeye team right now.

Colin: Haskins sure gave up on that run quickly. Is it possible this team is missing JT Barrett's leadership or that some of these guys already have their eyes set on the NFL draft?

Baver: I don’t know what the story is with that slide. I know other Buckeye fans are bringing up the NFL goggles thing as well. But let’s see what happens in these final three games. If guys have cashed it in, I think we’ll all figure it out over these last few games. As for missing JT’s leadership? Absolutely they are missing it.

Colin: Brendon White stepped up and did a nice job filling in at safety. Could he provide consistent help with our leaky back seven? 

Baver: Sure could. The kid was everywhere. This could be really big for this D, pairing him with the most consistent defender OSU has had this year...Jordan Fuller....the guy White replaced after Fuller’s targeting objection. And I don’t think the Buckeye D played quite as badly as many think they did last Saturday. That was a very good NU offense that OSU shut down almost the entire 2ndhalf. I think they took a few baby steps. There is at least some light at the end of the tunnel on that side of the ball...and Urban said this week that they are finally healthy on D.

Colin: This team may just be what it is by this point in the season. What do you see happening in East Lansing this Saturday and what is a realistic goal at this point for the 2018 Buckeyes? 

Baver: This Sparty team is a mess....more so than Ohio St. Except for the tight end, every starter has been hurt on offense for MSU this year. Losing WR Felton Davis was a huge loss. Lewerke is still banged up and hasn’t been worth a damn when healthy. Still, there are 28 Ohio kids on Michigan St’s roster that will dial it up Saturday. Sparty found ways to beat Penn St on the road, to hang tight most of the way with UM, and to beat a scorching hot Purdue team. And the OSU offense has been out of rhythm for a decent portion of all three games they have played away from Columbus this year. Now the Bucks have to play against the nation’s top ranked run defense on the road. But I still see a Sparty team on fumes right now...I think Ohio State wins a low scoring game. I’ve got Ohio St 21 Michigan St 17, in a typical OSU-Sparty November battle.

Winning the Big Ten is still a “somewhat” realistic goal for Ohio State. Right now, I’d give Michigan the advantage in The Game for the first time in years, but they’ve lost 8 straight in Ohio Stadium and Urban hasn’t been a dog since ’14....he thrives in that roll, having won all 6 gms at Ohio St when the Bucks were underdogs. So I welcome Michigan if/when they enter the Shoe as the favorite. But that goal of winning the Big Ten is out the window with a loss to Sparty Saturday.

Colin:Any other games and lines you will be keeping your eye on this weekend?

Baver: Call me crazy to pick against Bama, but if there was ever a time the Tide were going to be a flat, it’s this week after their destruction of LSU last week. Miss St is a solid team, and I like them to cover the 23½. Still, Bama should remain unbeaten. And that Iowa-N’Western spread has crept up too high...give me Pat Fitzgerald and 11 pts in Kinnick. A third dog for good measure? BC now catching 20 at home against Clemson? I like BC at that number. Steve Addazio has done a pretty amazing job getting that team back on the map.

Go Bucks....have to win this one Saturday.