If the Browns Lose to Denver Should Freddie Be Fired? NCP Has the Answer.


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There is only one question this week but it's a big one. Based on what we have seen so far, if the Browns lose to the Broncos this week, should Freddy Kitchens be fired?


Big $: My answer is short and sweet. The earliest I believe that firing Freddie could of been considered was halftime against the Titans. The latest it SHOULD of happened was immediately following the Titans debacle. The team was lost and looking for guidance and the coach was even more confused. This nonsense led to the team quitting and the filth and muck that attached itself to the season has yet to be shook. I believe we’ve reached manziel-ian levels of incompetence and the more it lingers the harder it’s going to be to right the ship. Freddie must go.


The Ice Cube: The answer is “yes, but ….”  I freely admit that the former used car salesman had me sold at the beginning of the year.  Given the way he had the offense clicking in the second half of last year and the “us-versus-the-world” rhetoric that flowed in his Southern drawl, I believed Freddy was the right guy to lead this team back to relevance.  I now have a severe case of buyer’s remorse.  I have had enough of the platitudes and excuses that now fill the post-loss pressers.  If he “doesn’t coach penalties,” then why the hell are the Browns still getting flagged a dozen times per game at the season’s halfway point.  If Freddy doesn’t coach them, he sure as shit doesn’t coach his players how to stop committing them, either.  It is abundantly clear that Freddy is not ready for his role.  He may be a proficient coordinator, but he ain’t head coach material, at least not yet.  It was maddening that the Browns still had multiple opportunities to make a game out of last week’s loss against the bulletproof Patriots.  But, like in too many instances throughout this season, Cleveland keeps pulling a Plaxico Burress and shooting itself in the leg with mindless penalties, unbelievable turnovers, baffling play-calling, and ridiculous replay challenges.  Should Freddy be fired if the Browns lose to Denver: Absolutely.  He has earned that fate, but Jimmy Haslam cannot pull the trigger now.  Who is going to take Freddy’s place, especially mid-season?  The first step is for Freddy to give up play-calling duties, so he can focus on his role CEO.  Maybe then he can finally start to show some growth himself. 

Buckeye Dominance; Young's Heisman Chase; UM Bouncing Back: Baver Answers Colin's Questions - Bye Week #2

Colin: Bad weather conditions and an agitated Badger squad closing to within 3 points in the 2nd half and then... total domination. Thoughts? 

Baver: As October comes to an end, there is no doubt whatsoever that Ohio St has been the best team in America to date. Now, that doesn’t guarantee them anything going forward, but it’s been the most dominating 8-game run I can remember in my 40+ years of being a hardcore Buckeye football addict.

Wisconsin may not be the team we once thought they were, but the Buckeyes scored a touchdown on every 2nd half possession except for the last one....the drive that ended in victory formation. Wisconsin still has a top 10 defense nationally in my opinion, and that was a beatdown. If the weather was better, the beatdown would have been worse.

Colin: Since it’s a bye week, your thoughts on impressive wins by PSU, Mich and the Gophers and what that means for the Buckeyes playoff chances moving forward? 

Baver: PJ Fleck has his kids believing...it’s what he does. The Gophers first four wins of the season were each by 7 pts or less, against less than stellar competition. Their last 4 wins? They beat Illinois by 23, Nebraska by 27, Rutgers by 35, and Maryland by 42. Can they hang with Penn St a week from Saturday? We shall see.

Michigan has now played 6 straight quarters of dominant football against two top opponents, and has a lot of momentum heading into November. Penn St? I still think they are the most talented Big Ten team OSU will face. 

Call it a cliché, but the Buckeyes biggest obstacle now is themselves, not Michigan, Penn St or any other B10 team. A year ago at this time, the 2018 Alabama team was on their way to becoming the greatest college football team of all time. At least, that’s what many in the media were selling. If you watched their final 3 games, that Bama team was nowhere near the team they were in October, and didn’t win the Nat’l Title, much less become the greatest team of all time. Hopefully, Coach Day can help these kids keep their minds right. If they can do that (and stay healthy), OSU will take care of Penn St, Michigan and the B10 West champ, and are Playoff bound.

Colin: Does an Oklahoma loss giving up 48 points combined with another Texas loss give the Buckeyes hope to make the playoff even with one loss? 

Baver: The Bucks would still have a decent shot I think of getting in if they beat PSU but lost to Michigan. OSU would still (likely) be East champs, and would still likely hammer the B10 West champ. There are so many other variables in play if OSU suffers a loss, I guess that’s the only hard take I have right now on a 1-loss Buckeye team making the Playoff.

Colin: Could Chase Young get invited to the Heisman ceremony and have you ever seen a more dominant Buckeye player at any position? (Let’s exclude Orlando Pace to keep interesting) 

Baver: After the clinic he put on against Wisconsin, the national media has jumped on board the Chase Young for Heisman campaign. The effect on the Heisman odds at the sportsbooks? A week ago today, Bovada had 17 players listed with Heisman odds, but no Chase Young. AJ Dillon was their last player listed, having 200 to 1 odds. Checking their live odds just now, Bovada has Chase Young on their board with 8 to 1 odds. An article yesterday noted BetOnline had just added Chase Young to their Heisman odds at 25 to 1. I just checked BetOnline’s live odds, and Chase Young is now listed with 6 to 1 odds. Can Young get an invite to the Heisman ceremony? Yep.

I could go on for a while on this topic, but the most dominating Buckeye player that I’ve seen play? You had to exclude Orlando, didn’t you? Ha....okay, you’ve made it harder. It’s a close call in my mind between Chris Spielman and Chase Young. Spielman wasn’t blessed with the skill set Chase has, but he had instincts like no other defensive player I’ve seen. Let’s definitely revisit in December after Chase finishes the regular season.

Colin: What other games and lines will you be keeping an eye on this week?

Pretty sad slate of games for October? Man alive. But you do have a top 10 matchup in Jacksonville, with Georgia and Florida. The winner of this one still has a shot at the playoff. I like the Gators +6½. The Bulldogs won going away in 2017 & 2018, but I don’t see Dan Mullen getting blown out in this game again this year. I think the Gators hang tough and have decent shot at an upset.

Along the same lines, I like Washington getting the points (3½) at home against Utah. I just do not see Chris Peterson losing his 4th game of the year on the first Saturday of November. The Huskies played Oregon pretty evenly and have had an extra week to prepare for Utah. I like Washington win outright. 

—Brent Baver and Colin Gawel

 

 

 

If You Don't Like This Band, You Don't Like Rock N Roll: Two Nights With The Hangmen - by JCE

editor’s note: Occasionally, at the end of summer vacations, copy gets “mislaid” here at the Pencil Storm offices, especially in election years when we add a political desk (actually a card table in the corner by the water cooler) to the mix. This JCE piece about The Hangmen actually somehow wound up in Sports editor Jeff Hassler’s in-box, and it took him OVER A MONTH to figure out that The Hangmen were not a team in either the NFL or Major League Baseball and forward it to the music department. (Personally, I have never been certain that that “medical marijuana” card Hassler is always flashing around the office is legit, since it seems to be printed on the back of an old Van Halen press release, from when Sammy Hagar was still in the band.)

Our apologies to JCE and to The Hangmen for the delay.

I was sitting at the bar in a club called The Broadberry in Richmond, VA all the way back in May.  I was with two friends waiting for a band called The Dirty Nil, who would be followed by the excellent Glorious Sons.  Behind the bar, there they have a big video screen showing food items and upcoming shows.  I glanced up and saw an announcement for a double bill of the Supersuckers with The Hangmen.  I almost jumped out of my skin.  I bought the self-titled debut record by The Hangmen (Capitol Records) in 1989.  I thought then, and still believe, it is one of the best records on the planet.  I have religiously followed the band’s career ever since, which is no small feat given their ups and downs.  They are pure rock n roll through and through.

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The Hangmen were dropped by Capitol and picked up by Geffen, but their second record, which would have been called Suicide Doors, was never released.  Finally, a good ten years later we got the sophomore release called Metallic IOU.  Good God it was worth the wait.  The line-up went through changes but has been pretty stable since that 10-year layoff.  The constant is Bryan Small, one of my all-time rock n roll heroes.  Loteria followed in 2004, In The City was 2007, East of Western was 2012 and finally, the brand-new 2019 release called Cactusville.  Every one of them is absolutely stellar.  I had never seen The Hangmen play live.  I had never seen them come to a city anywhere near me.  I was like a kid waiting for Christmas from that night in May right up until the show on September 10th.

So I bought tickets and waited with anticipation.  In the week leading up to the show I told my amazing wife over and over that I wanted to meet Bryan Small and get a picture with him.  I am not normally such a super-fan, but I had been waiting 30 years to see this band.  I should digress for a minute and say that I also love The Supersuckers.  I had never seen them before either, but they were second fiddle on this bill for me, even though they were the headliners.

September 10th was a Tuesday. The show was going to be at a tiny club called The Camel (sister club to the larger Broadberry). I left work early and my wife and I headed for Richmond, which is a two hour trip. There were not many people in attendance, so I immediately met Eddie Spaghetti, main Supersucker.

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JCE & Eddie

It wasn’t long after that I got to meet Bryan Small and talk with him for awhile. During our conversation I learned that Suicide Doors was not really the lost treasure I always figured it would be. It was a bad time for Bryan and he said the best songs on it made it onto Metallic IOU anyway. He was disappointed that the vinyl version of Cactusville had been delayed so they didn’t have any to sell. We talked about the set-list that was coming and the hairs stood up on my neck: it was perfect. I told him I had no idea how they had eluded me for 30 years, and if I understood him correctly, he said they had never played the East coast. He was extremely nice. They hit the stage soon after we talked, and I was in rock n roll heaven for 45 minutes. The set-list covered all of the records and every song was so f**k’n great that I won’t bother picking highlights.

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JCE & Bryan

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The Hangmen rocking The Camel Club in Richmond, VA.

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signed set-list

We watched The Supersuckers of course, but after The Hangmen, well….  I had grabbed a set-list so I got Bryan to sign it for me and we headed for home.  A two-hour drive after a show like that one is no problem at all.  Shows like that can keep me energized and happy for days. 

The next night, still sizzling from an amazing show and so happy to have met one of my heroes, my beautiful & amazing wife and I hatched a plan to go see the same bill a few days later, Saturday, September 14th in Harrisonburg, VA at the Golden Pony. Our friend Kim came along to be indoctrinated into the rock n roll nirvana that is The Hangmen. We arrived to a similar, very small club with a small crowd. As I had hoped, the Cactusville vinyl had finally caught up with the band, so I bought one right away, ripped it open and got it signed by everyone. Bryan remembered us and was super gracious again. We also met the rest of the band: Angelique on bass, Jimmy James playing some smoking guitar and Jorge Disguster pounding the drums. The setlist was the same, which was fine with me. The Hangmen blew the roof off again and - for me at least - should have been the headliners.

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Signed cover of green vinyl Cactusville record, Bryan’s guitar pick from the Harrisonburg show.

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JCE w/ Angelique and Jimmy

I was so happy to get to see The Hangmen twice while I had the chance, so happy to get to meet some heroes, so happy to get the vinyl record, so happy----you get the picture.  These two nights were bucket list material for me.  Thanks for reading and letting me share my joy, and if you don’t know The Hangmen, check them out!

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Bryan Small at The Golden Pony Club: JCE, JCE’s beer, and JCE’s wife stand front and center.

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HELL YEAH.

North Coast Posse is Calling the Browns Upset - by Big $

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My son Owen and I went to the Seattle game two weeks ago. The good: It was a highly entertaining game with lots of drama. The bad: The Browns lost a winnable game.

So Question #1: What are your good and bad takeaways from that game?

Big $: The Seahawks game was incredibly disappointing, however when you rewind the clock to 2018, and examine how the Browns faired against quality opponents there is some room for optimism. The Browns were completely overmatched by the Chiefs,Chargers, Texans and Steelers last year. All things considered, they should of beat Seattle, who are a definitive playoff team. Therefore, I’m holding onto a kernel of hope that things are on an upswing.

Final question: What should we expect good and bad vs the Pats this Sunday?

Big $: As a native Clevelander and long time Browns fan, I’m a glutton for punishment. Therefore, I’m going out on a serious limb and risking devastating disappointment by expecting a Browns win. Baker ain’t afraid of no ghosts : Browns 31 Pats 20

OSU's Tailback Combo, Jonathan Taylor, Saturday's Weather - Baver Answers Colin's Questions: Wisconsin Week

Colin: Ho hum, another dominating performance against Northwestern. Did you notice any new wrinkles good or bad from the Buckeyes following a bye week?

Baver: The angle route JK Dobbins ran on his early 2nd quarter TD reception was a new play Coach Day inserted after watching film of N’Western. Austin Mack ran a dig route that pulled N’Western LB Paddy Fisher just enough away from the center of the field to allow Dobbins to do his magic. It’s the 1st play in the video linked HERE. Another route that color analyst Brock Huard said was a new one was Olave’s first TD catch. It’s the 2nd play of the video linked HERE, 22 seconds into the vid. Northwestern expected Olave to run a crossing route, but Olave turning the route upfield. By the time NW leading tackler Travis Whillock reacted, Olave was blowing by him on the way to 6 points. 

Colin: Before the season, the OSU running game looked like a possible weak spot, how do you feel about it now headed into the Wisconsin game?

Baver: JKD and Master Teague have blown me away. Having a QB that can beat you with both his arms and his legs, along with better run blocking, have of course helped the tailbacks a lot. Still, I wasn’t buying the hype about Dobbins reinventing himself in the off-season. Seeing is believing...the kid’s been unbelievable. And Teague was hurt much of August, making me skeptical of this unit heading into the opener. Now, when Teague comes off the bench to spell Dobbins, I picture opposing defenders saying, “Sh*t....now it’s this dude.” You’d probably have to search hard to find a better one-two, tailback combo in CFB this year. 

Colin: Bucky Badger ruined our big date by somehow losing to Illinois. Should we be more or less concerned about Wisconsin following such a stunning upset?

Baver: I think Ohio St was going to get Wisconsin’s “A” game no matter what. Good teams often play to their level of competition, but they usually still win those games. Losing as a 30½ point favorite is jaw dropping. So, I don’t think as highly of Wisconsin as I did a week ago. OSU has faced the Badgers 6 times since 2011, winning all of them. That included the Cardale Jones-led beatdown in the 2014 B10 title game. But, the other 5 Buckeye wins were each by 7 pts or less. And if this Buckeye team takes UW lightly, the Badgers are capable of beating them.

Colin: Weather forecast for the game calls for steady/heavy rain. This has me very concerned. Should I be?

Baver: Yeah, I see weather.com has 90 to 100% chance of rain during game hours. I usually get too worked up about bad weather ever since the ’15 loss to Michigan St when Urban buttoned it up. So right or wrong, I’m concerned as well.

Colin: Tell me about this Badger team, and how you see this one going down.

Baver: Jonathan Taylor is in a small slump by his standards, but if I am Badger HC Paul Chryst, I’m still running Taylor early and often. That’s a better choice than dealing with OSU’s pass rush. If the UW offense has success against the Buckeye D early, that would give the Badgers a much-needed boost of confidence. MSU held Taylor to 3.1 yds per carry, but Wisconsin hurt Sparty’s D in several other ways, one of which was with Jack Coan’s efficiency through the air. Coan is big upgrade over Alex Hornibrook.

The UW defense will be the best Ohio St has faced so far. They play a 3-4 front, with their cornerbacks often playing man coverage. UW’s 3 down linemen play the run very well, and they have a trio of big-time LBs in Zack Baun, Jack Sanborn, and Chris Orr. Still, the Illinois tailback duo of Reggie Corbin & Dre Brown combined for 168 yds against the Badgers at 6 yards a pop.

I think Wisconsin provides OSU with its biggest test yet, and bad weather should favor the underdog with more unpredictability. I can see Ohio St taking longer to make adjustments on both sides of the ball. But as long as it’s not a monsoon, I think Day and his staff eventually make needed adjustments and wear Wisconsin down. I’ve got it: Ohio St 27 Wisc 14.

Colin: Meanwhile, Michigan didn't quit on Harbaugh and outplayed Penn State despite losing a tough one 28 -21. Which of those two teams concerns you most moving forward?

Baver: Good call on Michigan hanging tough. UM clearly showed heart, and thoroughly outplayed Penn St. The Nits also got some home cooking from the men in stripes as well. It’s a close call with OSU’s remaining opponents, but I’d rank their toughest upcoming matchups in this order: 1 Wisconsin, 2 Penn St, 3 Michigan.

Colin: Quick calls on Penn State’s trip to East Lansing and Notre Dame at Michigan...

Baver: I like Sparty getting points at home against Penn St. MSU has had PSU’s number over the past few years, and I expect a low scoring, ugly game. I like MSU +6½ in a toss-up game. Tough call, but I think UM at home probably beats ND. They’ve started to turn a corner on offense. I’ll take TTUN getting a point at home.

—Brent Baver and Colin Gawel